The Love Movement
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The Love Movement
Ep 10: Profound lessons for life : A plant medicine journey with Brian
What if unlocking the mysteries of your mind only required a full moon and the courage to surrender? Join us as Brian takes us through his transformative journey with plant medicine, highlighting the struggle against ego death and the pivotal role of intention-setting. He finds an anchor in the love he associates with Brittany and Marty, revealing powerful insights about love, honor, and respect. Together, we unearth the therapeutic potential of psychedelic experiences, as they connect past and present, offering years of therapy in mere hours.
Explore the profound nature of intuition as the ultimate guide to personal growth and spiritual awakening. Through metaphorical journeys of transformation, we emphasize the significance of letting go of past burdens. We reveal the interconnectedness of everything as energy and how we can see the world as a loving awareness with no judgment.
you're listening to the love movement with your host, britney and brian johnston.
Speaker 2:We're starting a movement centered around love to help raise the vibration of this beautiful planet.
Speaker 1:If that's your vibe, hang out with us as we chat about many topics all centered around three main pillars Loving yourself, loving each other and loving the planet. So if you're ready, let's jump in. Welcome everybody. It's episode 10. Yeah, and we have an interesting episode for you today. Some people might think what is this podcast turning into? It's about love.
Speaker 2:It's about love.
Speaker 1:It is about love and Brian did his third plant medicine journey yesterday on a full moon.
Speaker 2:Definitely my deepest.
Speaker 1:And it was pretty intense, yeah, so we wanted to share that with you guys in case it gives any insight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were going to share this, but I think there's a lot of value here and a lot of lessons that were shown to me that I think will just help people in general. Some pretty neat insights.
Speaker 1:One thing I want to say before we jump into it is if you guys are new to the podcast, you haven't listened to any other episodes. Go back to episode three. That's kind of where this whole podcast started was. Back in March, brian did his first plant medicine journey and I just hit record on us having a candid conversation about it and it turned into episode. Well, episode one, which ends up being three on the podcast, and then episode four is all about how to do this responsibly, because there's a lot of misconception with psilocybin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I could probably do another episode that adds on to episode four to even extend how to do it safely. But one thing I guess to start with is intentions of doing a journey and I, you know, I cleared the energy in the room the night before I did this in my bedroom. I cleared the energy in the room the night before I did this in in my bedroom and I just really wanted to I don't know find some blocks that I've been having and I wanted to discover those more. I wanted to maybe reconnect with my purpose and, um, you know, my intentions were that I wanted to be wrapped in like an encompassing, loving embrace in this journey. And I wanted to be wrapped in like an encompassing, loving embrace in this journey and I wanted to be firm, uh, but also gentle at the same time, and it was definitely, it was definitely firm. So I, yeah, I did this, uh, about nine o'clock in the morning, I made my whole concoction in a, in a shake like a protein shake with, uh, with the mushrooms, and by 9 30 it was. I was like I was fully gone and it came on really strong.
Speaker 2:And something I'd never had happened before is I had this like feeling like I was afraid or something like I did not like it. It was very, it was like heavy and I wanted to stop. I wanted to to like get out of here. I'm like I feel like I'm like trapped almost, but I also wanted to keep going because I knew what I was going to get out of it in the end. It was just like this insane struggle and it was just. It was very chaotic at the start. So if you don't know about what happens in a trip usually it's a bumpy start, um, there's a thing that calls it called an ego death, um, which is you really have to surrender, and if you don't surrender to this process in it, it can be a very bad ugly trip.
Speaker 2:And like, I knew all these things and I've gone through them before, but this, I think I, I I went a little bit, uh, bigger dose this time. So I want to went a little bit bigger dose this time because I wanted to go a little bit deeper and it was very heavy. But while I was going through this chaotic in and out state of trying to regain consciousness and wanting to escape but also wanting to go deep, and just this fighting feeling that I felt like I was almost in danger. I found an anchor and my anchor was Brittany and Marty.
Speaker 2:Danger I found like an anchor and my anchor was Brittany and Marty and I just kept going back. It was a second anchor of love and safety and I just had to remind myself I'm in this safe room, nothing's going to happen, and I just kept going back in my head to like holding you and Marty close and this loving embrace. And then something weird happened, like right at the start of the journey, after kind of this was going on, it was, uh, I seen you and it was just like centering all around you and it was just like love and honor and like respect this woman.
Speaker 1:I like that yeah.
Speaker 2:It was really cool. She's like, it was like she's like your, like your rock, um, just honor and cherish her. It was really cool. And then I seen you standing there and it's just like all your physicalness just kind of went, almost like it just got cut into a thousand pieces and left on the floor and you were just this glowing ball. So it's like everything that you could like judge about a person went away and it was just you as this glowing ball of energy, this like loving light, and it just like came towards me and once that happened, it was a lot easier to progress. It was very strange, um what's part of your intention.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess it was yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:To have like an anchor or a loving embrace or whatever, and it kind of came to you when you were feeling kind of scared.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so when I actually finally let go, like when I was struggling, it's like my whole body just dissolved into this bed, into the bed, and everything just kind of went inward on this very heavy feeling and everything just kind of go. It's like. It's like you're dying and you know you're gonna die.
Speaker 2:So it feel, almost feels, like you die and then creepy but to get to the other side and like, meet with, like you know, divine light or god, or whatever you want to call it. This, this loving energy, and hang out with your higher self, is like something you got to go through. So once that happened, um, it started to get easier and I knew that was the peak and how long did all of that hard part take?
Speaker 1:that hard part was over an hour, for sure you had said at one point you just wanted me to come in there or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a point where I wanted britney to come in the room, and then I think that's when I actually seen you in my, in my vision and just in case you guys don't know this um, he's laying in our bedroom with an eye mask on and headphones with a curated playlist yeah just to like set the tone of what this actually looks like.
Speaker 2:But honestly, like you, having that scary early experience, which is something you've never had before, makes me more terrified to do mine right now um, yeah, and I realized what it was after and, like, looking back at the time, it was scary, but I would do that all again to get what I got.
Speaker 1:Like you said, it was the hardest thing you've ever done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just struggling because I didn't want to give it up. I didn't want to give up this. Like my consciousness, I wanted, I didn't want to lose that.
Speaker 1:So what exactly is happening in your brain when all this is going on?
Speaker 2:Well, like, what do you? What do, what do you mean?
Speaker 1:like I just think people that don't know a lot about this. It's like is it like it opens up different pathways in your brain so that your brain communicates with different parts of your brain?
Speaker 2:like yeah, so what's happening is your brain is very compartmentalized, like your eyesight and your hearing and your touch and everything right. It's compartmentalized. So what it's doing? It's kind of creating bridges to every part of your brain where you can, like see sound, for instance. It's very cool, like there's parts in this where I was literally dancing as like an energetic being, through waves of sound. Like in this 3, 4d space it was. It's hard to explain. It's so cool, though, wow that is cool yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 2:That's the reason that you put an eye mask on, so you don't have external stimulation. It's all inward work right, which makes it therapeutic and you guys.
Speaker 1:He was in that bedroom from nine until like four yeah, after four, I think it's.
Speaker 2:Six to eight hours is a an average journey.
Speaker 1:That was way longer than I'd been in there before yeah, like before you had been out at like 2, 2, 30, and also the first time you did it like. I mean, you cried and cried and cried and cried and it was like all these years of therapy in one session, whereas this one you said it was so hard, then got so good, but you didn't cry at all I had no tears.
Speaker 2:I had a few, like a little bit of tears, um like welling up my eyes of like joy at the end right um okay, we'll keep going with where what happened?
Speaker 2:what happened next when you got to kind of like the peak and you got through that, um, yeah, so once, once I knew it would get easier, um, you know, there was all these random thoughts and it's confusing and I realized that that first part that was so hard, it was me just like shedding, like stuck energy, like I couldn't get to this higher place and be in this pure space with the you know the divine or whatever you want to call it, with carrying all this like baggage that I've been collecting on myself. So I just had to get rid of all this garbage energy. That's why everything was so chaotic, like it was so random and weird, like I've never had anything like that before. It wasn't nothing, was like really scary and like hard to visualize. There was none of that stuff. It was just like a weird feeling Heavy feeling is how I could describe the start.
Speaker 2:But once I got through that that hard part, I knew, like I said, it would get easier. Got through that that hard part, um, I knew, like I said it would get easier. But, yeah, I just pictured I had this visual visualization of a pile of garbage laying in the corner of the bedroom and it was just like me shedding everything that had been stuck on me, like that I've collected in this like 3d world. It was so strange. That's such a cool visual.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very neat because we all are really carrying around bags of garbage, yeah, and we pick it up everywhere, whether we want to or not.
Speaker 2:Everything you watch, everything you see, people you go around like it's this whole world is really energy, and that's one of the things I really got to this trip is how everything is energy. Um so, uh, I I got a lot of notes here, guys. I'm not even done.
Speaker 1:He's not even a writer, you guys, and he has wrote a lot during this because integration is such a huge part of getting the value out of it. And I would say, like you said, doing a journey to that degree you'd only do probably every six months, because it's I mean, he was so exhausted yesterday I thought, you know, he slept all night. He woke up for like a couple hours and then he started his trip and he was in the bedroom for another seven hours. I thought like he's going to be up till midnight. He's going to be so rested and wired.
Speaker 2:Your mind never works that hard in daily life, no matter what you're doing.
Speaker 2:His watch thought that he had a three and a half hour nap, yeah, and I said I went into REM sleep too. That's wild, Um, but this whole time when I, while I was struggling, struggling, I knew there was going to be um, like pure love at some point, Cause that's kind of like the theme of of mushrooms is is pure love, Um. So I went, uh, oh, once, once that happened and I broke through and I had this like this ego death and I felt like I died. I was so hot, I was sweating, I was a thousand degrees. It was just the most crazy thing.
Speaker 1:And that's never happened to you before.
Speaker 2:No, like I've been warm, but not like that that was. That was something else. So at this point I had I started looking back at myself as a little boy when I was about three and I was watching myself.
Speaker 1:Which is the age of our son. That's weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just remember looking at myself and I was just wondering, like had like a he I was really cared for. But had I ever been like loved, like really really loved, like like we are with Marty and I? I wasn't sure. So I was just I was giving myself all this, this love and affection to my like younger self. And that's nice, yeah, and I, it just made me really smile.
Speaker 2:So that was a turning point in in the whole journey and then I started like just going through these times in my life and I found myself in. I was about 13 ish, 14 years old and I was in the uh, I was actually going to the bathroom. I saw him stand there going to the bathroom and this is a picture like you're watching someone from behind stand in a toilet taking a leak right. And this point like I'll give you a little bit of backstory. When I was that age, I had this point in the bathroom where I was just going to go to a conditioning camp, a hockey conditioning camp thing and I was going to the bathroom I was like I don't want to go, I don't want to go right now. Everything inside me said don't go today, skip it and go another time. And then another part of me was like, well, you can go. Like you can get better by doing this, like you can do hard things like just push through, just go, and what?
Speaker 1:are you wearing?
Speaker 2:your gut, ignoring my gut. So what had actually happened that day on the ice is? I crashed in the boards. I broke forward, vertebrae in my mid-back between my shoulder blades and thought he was paralyzed. I was paralyzed on the ice for a period of time, but completely changed everything in my life at that point yeah, it was back pain ever since it's insanely scary.
Speaker 2:But what I realized in my vision while I was watching myself have this moment, I was like what is it? What's your intuition? That was the first time I remember having an intuition and a gut feeling about something. Your tug, your true ultimate guide, is what our mentors called it. It and, uh, very similar to my last journey. When I found something like that.
Speaker 2:I was like huh, just from like a, like a curious awareness. I was like I want to know more about that. And in front of me, like above the toilet picture like a little hurricane kind of sideways, and you're looking at the top of it, kind of like a picture on the wall, and it's just like sitting there spinning, there's a dot in the middle and I was like I want to know more about this, this intuition. Where does that come from? Where does that go? And I went into that dot and boom, I was on the other side, just like I was in my, my other really big journey, and I was in this infinite blackness and that's where, like, the divine is like your higher self, like where you felt squeezed with love, like you mentioned last time.
Speaker 2:Yeah I was squeezed with love last time and I was in um, I was in this space again and didn't you say you came at it from like a different part of your house? Yeah, oddly enough, the bathroom is right beside my bedroom, where I was in the closet last time this happened, in the closet backs time this happened, and the closet backs the bathroom. They're like five feet apart.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like a seems like a wormhole.
Speaker 2:There's like a portal in there. So a theme in every journey that I've had is it's bumpy at the start, it's hard. You go through this like ego death, what they call it and then you search for a point of like interest that you need to investigate and you go into it and then it's the breakthrough, and now is when the work actually starts wow.
Speaker 1:So you really have to be willing to like, get, like I'm like what if I can't get through the hard stuff?
Speaker 2:and I just like get stuck in the heart and get through okay I'll be there with you, don't you worry stay tuned for that episode maybe yeah.
Speaker 2:So now, now we can begin. So I was going through my life from there at places where, uh, this intuitive power came through and and one of the other really, really clear days that this happened was back in high school. I think I talked, we talked about it on our journey, about our episode, about how we met, and it was a day of a strike at our high school and, oddly enough, my all of these kids are walking to this place where the strike was going to happen on the sidewalk. My car, I was driving my car with my buddy, my car died. I got out of the car kind of closer to the back of this you know pack of kids walking down the sidewalk and down the hill. I was looking for Brittany and I pointed her out. There was hundreds and hundreds of people there and I just knew I had to go and find her and talk to her.
Speaker 2:That day was like odd, but that was my intuition. That was my intuition. There's been lots of other times where I've followed my intuition, but it's like one of those things where you, if you don't use it, you lose it. You lose it. It's always there, but we have to. It's like, it's like a skill you have to hone and I think at a young age we're given this more but we ignore it because of society and stuff and we lose that intuition.
Speaker 1:That's deep, that's a deep lesson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one of the things I wanted to know was, like, what was holding me back in life and how is this intuition involved in this? These are like thoughts you're having in your head, guys, and there's so many, so many thoughts that go on your head like I did. I can't regurgitate all of it, um, but this was the the thought process I was having at the time and I think this is all in the right order. But so I ended up I was a bird, I was like a hawk in a nest and in front of me, you know, I was way up high and there was kind of like this like rock wall thing in front of me and, you know, I could hear the music.
Speaker 2:The music was playing and I tried to jump out of the nest and I could see my wings. I didn't have hands, I had like gray wings. It was really cool, and I tried to jump out of this, this nest, and I couldn't. It was like I was hitting this invisible wall and and just go like you want to fly. You're born to fly and I just jumped off that edge, through this barrier and oh, this is making me almost emotional and I was flying like a bird um over everything.
Speaker 2:It was the most freeing feeling when, like when people talk about freedom like that, was that felt like freedom wow right there and I was just flying above everything and I I was like a loving awareness.
Speaker 2:I could see everything happening below me and I was just aware of everything happening. Um, but it was from like a point of love. It was very cool and like when you think about a bird, birds have this direct path places, so a bird can land here and then it can fly to that point and it can fly to that point. And then I had this vision of walking on a gravel path. So I'm like a human again.
Speaker 2:I'm walking on a gravel path. It's, you know, it's flat, it's clear, there's like trees on both sides and kind of in the forest on this flat gravel path and I should be able to walk easily. But what I was doing, I was reaching behind myself and grabbing big rocks and sticks and all this crap and I kept throwing it in front of me. We do in life we take all our garbage from the past, all our experiences, all the hardship, and we keep bringing it up and putting it in our way to make our life hard. Oh, my gosh, when all we got to do is walk or be bird and just go from place to place.
Speaker 1:You didn't cry during your journey, but you were getting emotional place.
Speaker 2:you didn't cry during your journey, but you were getting emotional well, it's. It's different now when you reflect on it and be like wow, that was actually really really crazy. So, yeah, you bring your past and into your path and you've struck all your progress. Wow, so just decide to be a bird. And then, um, now I was in this really cool space where I'm like an infinite blackness again. Okay, and there's these like points on, like infinite blackness, meaning like.
Speaker 2:You're not a person, you're not a physical being, you're just like just picture in a black room, picture this picture space okay and there's little clumps here and clumps there and between all these little points are straight lines and I'm a bird now and I can fly from point to point easily straight. There's no obstructions on these points. But I can also travel through time. I can travel back in time and see things. I can travel forwards, I can travel sideways, I can go anywhere I want in this like oh my. God, this is is insane in this time grid, because time doesn't exist time doesn't exist it's, and when you understand quantum physics and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:That's a whole other broadcast time doesn't really exist. We're just experiencing it on this earth because we're in like a 3d state.
Speaker 1:This stuff gets deep but you can't make it up no, this is probably why our son's name is mart and you're obsessed with Back to the Future. I don't know.
Speaker 2:So what else do we got here so I kept trying to explain. This is a weird thing. So, because we have a podcast now and people want to know about this, I kept trying to explain what was happening in my head or figure out what was happening so I could explain it in the podcast, in the podcast and stuff, and I was just trying to tell myself to just like shut up and just observe and quit trying to figure everything out and quit trying to explain, just be present. And then I got this. This is the crazy part. I got this really clear message and it was just shut, the fuck up. And then it wasn't just for me, it was like a message for humanity.
Speaker 2:It was shut the fuck up and what that ended up meaning. It was like I had this experiment that the whole planet was doing, because everyone is always talking. Everyone is always um, they're commenting on stuff you know, letting their opinion known, their um everything. You know how. Everyone's talking about everything. People on the news, radio, like politicians. Everyone's bitching about something and complaining.
Speaker 2:Like there's this everyone trying to be right about their view and perspective and when you're talking, you can't, you can't take anything in, you can't absorb, and the whole universe is like this, this loving awareness, and we, or this, like divine energy and we can't take it in. We get further away from it because we're always talking. So the experiment that I was like conducting in my head was like everyone everywhere. So there's there's no planes in the air, there's no boats on the water, there's no cars driving. Everyone's like at home or on the grass or in the forest or wherever. Nobody is talking.
Speaker 2:If you turn on the TV, there'd be like a news anchor there and he's just sitting there. And you turn, go to a YouTube live or something like that Instagram live, and someone's just sitting there and everyone has this like little smile on their face and every single person is just this loving awareness. There's no fighting, there's no bombs being dropped, there's no conflict. It was just the whole world at peace, it was just the most tranquil thing and it was just the whole world at the same time. Just complete silence, nothing happening, everyone just observing in this loving awareness. And then I got this message it's like what now? Where your mind goes to, while you're just sitting there, being in this loving awareness of who you truly are. And then I'm sitting in this nice warm yellow sunshine on the edge of a forest in like some grassy stuff, watching a caterpillar, and that's what I'm doing. I'm just observing this caterpillar. Marty's been talking a lot about caterpillars lately. It's weird that when you told me that.
Speaker 2:I was like what?
Speaker 1:This kid's obsessed with caterpillars. I had that caterpillar on my hand the other day and I'm like I don't even like caterpillars. There's things climbing on my hand.
Speaker 2:So I feel like that was kind of a neat little coincidence. So it's just like appreciating what's in front of you at all times. It was the neatest thing. But that's an experiment that you can do yourself. Just sit there in like a loving awareness, with no judgment of anything, and just like appreciate something and like where does your mind go, and I think that'll tell you a lot about yourself. Pretty simple for me. I'm just like it's pretty simple for me.
Speaker 1:I'm just like it's pretty accurate for you.
Speaker 2:I just want to be in nature and just be in its presence and soak it up, and it's just a great place. Love that. So I'd asked about my purpose at this point and I got. It was very strange. It was like just you need to share this, you need to share, like, speak this and share this and get people to understand.
Speaker 1:Like this what we're doing.
Speaker 2:Like this message and it was like how do I do that? And it's like, just how you're doing it, like right now, just get it out there, but maybe more Right.
Speaker 1:So share this podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you're listening Because that's the thing I always joke with you is like you're just so in your head all the time, like you have thoughts and thoughts and thoughts and thoughts, but you're always quiet, you're always the observer, you're always never talking.
Speaker 2:And that came up in this too, and it's because I'm more of an awareness than I am, like I don't need to speak my mind about everything. I'm not a person. If there's some something going on on Facebook, I'll never leave a comment. I'm never going to leave a comment about anything unless it's something positive. Like someone found this really cool mushroom the other day, I'm like, oh, that's amazing. Or somebody did something really good. I'm like, oh, good for you. Like I'll just, if it's gonna, if I'm gonna say something, it's gonna be something positive. I'm never gonna put negativity out in the world and that's what. Like social media is everyone just putting each other down and and, yeah, it's just, that's a bad energy. That's why politics are so dividing yeah yeah, I, I don't like that.
Speaker 1:So you're sharing the good message yeah.
Speaker 2:So you just, I just gotta, I just gotta share this message. Um, what else do we got here? Um, I guess, yeah, most of my trip was just being this loving awareness, and a lot of it was detaching yourself from what you were seeing, so like someone would come up and I could, just I could decide if I wanted to go down that road or no, and sometimes I'd be like, no, that's not for me, I don't want, I don't want to, I don't want to look at that. It wasn't anything bad, I don't think it's not like something I needed to explore, just like, oh, that's not enough for me, and I just moved on to something else. So that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2:You kind of had that control, that control in there, um, something, what I had, this really neat vision of there were so many rainbows, because when you're in this space and you realize everything is energy, you're getting all these visualizations and it's very. The colors are very rainbow like. When I took a lower dose, there was a lot of like green purples and blues, but on this dose I could see green purples, blues, like yellows, like a full rainbow, orange like. It was like a full spectrum this time. So I don't know if I just like, went further in and I just realizing that everything is energy and being around, frequency. Um, as a kid, when I wanted to be, you know, I was a d.
Speaker 1:Right and.
Speaker 2:I was just immersed in frequency all the time and music makes you happy it can make you happy if you're on the right frequencies, and it's cool, people actually make music these days that are tuned to specific frequencies to make you feel a certain way Right. It's like a science to it, which is pretty neat.
Speaker 1:Talk about the part where you were dancing.
Speaker 2:Dancing In the music or something. Oh well, I kind of did already, didn't he?
Speaker 1:yeah, he didn't really explain it like how you were telling me yesterday.
Speaker 2:Well, it was like you could like see the vibration of the music you can see, like if there's like a beat or something going on in the song, it it represented in your mind as like a physical thing, and it was. It was just coming at me and I was just like moving through it and weaving through it. I was like picture yourself like on a highway and everything on the highway is like hurling towards you, like you're going the wrong way on a highway, okay, and you're just weaving in and out, up and down, side to side. It was like a good feeling, it was an amazing feeling. It's just like you're just in this amazing flow and you're just like soaking it all up.
Speaker 1:Maybe that was the message was that you were in the flow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. It was very cool. There was a lot of love, um, in the journey. At the end, um, so many neat points connected and like I don't even remember all the things that happened, like I still got to go through this a little bit more. I don't even know if I'll remember them, but every time you made a connection of something like a really deep connection, when you put two things together from your life, this overwhelming feeling would come over my body.
Speaker 1:Every single time I made this connection, like a rush of energy, or how do you describe it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a rush of energy like a wave through my whole body. Every single time it was very neat and it was something I noticed continuously, like every time I had that this feeling would happen.
Speaker 1:It was almost like affirmation of yes, that's the connection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like the energy was just like flowing your body. Cool, it was very neat. But the connections would happen and you would visualize it as like a line going from one point like outside of the universe and back inside the universe to another point and they would connect.
Speaker 1:It was so trippy, like in this back vast blackness of space gosh, that is like so weird and cool all at the same time yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 2:something else, a couple other neat things that happened is so I'm sitting in basically a dark room with this eye mask on, I'm laying on my bed and I would get these visualizations of, like, the walls in my house disappearing and yellow, bright sunshine coming into my room and I would see it. Wow, that's divine light. Yeah, it was. It was very neat and it happened like a few times.
Speaker 1:This was closer to the start and the crazy part about this is you did this on a full moon and you did this after the 11-11 portal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like, the other weird thing is, I'm always looking for, you know, magic mushrooms out in the forest, and last year I ended up finding them right in our front yard after I'd been looking all over the countryside for them. Yeah, but we went for a walk on the day before on this trail that I walk and I bike on all the time, and so we're walking, I look down and there's a little patch of magic mushrooms right there growing in the forest.
Speaker 1:And they're tiny, you guys. They're tiny, like the size of your pinky fingernail. They're tiny, but I'm just saying that because the fact that you found them was crazy. Yeah, because there's so many mushrooms when you walk here, especially this time of year.
Speaker 2:Ridiculous amounts but I've never found them before like that kind.
Speaker 1:I've never found that I'm freaking out because I'm like, what if it's not that? Because the next thing you're saying that's uh, what are the deadly ones called? Oh a gallerina which is known as like a funeral bell, which is toxic, and they grow here too well, yeah, you literally point one out, and then over there you're like and there's the one I'm gonna put in my shakes tomorrow morning. I'm like no, you're not so I confirmed it was.
Speaker 2:I threw that in my shake, so I did have some, and I wonder how mushrooms do you think that that made the journey different? I think everything makes a journey different physiology um, what you ate that day, how you feel, how you slept um, like a thousand things well, because you wanted to do this journey on the first, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:initially I did, and you weren't feeling good that day so you were like, nope, not doing it, yeah, you gotta feel good, like, don't do this when you're hungover. Uh, don't do this when you're tired, when you're sick, um, yeah, don't take mushroom, or don't take a kind of mushroom you're never not experienced with, you know one go low and slow as low and slow. I definitely start with a, a lower dose, just before you go into which is what I have done and that's why, when I do a bigger one, I'll hopefully have a good experience.
Speaker 2:But uh, there's one other really cool thing that happened. Um, every time I yawned oh yeah, this part, and yawning is just the most amazing thing when you're you're in this trip. Like you yawn so big, like bigger than you do on a normal day, but every time I did that I got just a flood of energy in my body. It was was neat. It was every single time.
Speaker 1:So do you think that's why people yawn?
Speaker 2:Well, how it was explained to me was it's like pure energy, pure light, just like entering your body and just almost like recharging you.
Speaker 1:That's so interesting because when you yawn, you're tired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was, it was very neat.
Speaker 1:I was actually thinking about that Cause I was laying in bed with Marty just before this yawning and I was like. I was thinking about what you had told me yesterday about this. It's like I mean, that's why we yawn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to. I want to go back to when I was talking about being a bird. So I, when I got to go to the bathroom for the second time, wash my hands and I go out into back into the bedroom and my back has been pretty sore. So I grabbed our, our big like foam roller thing and I was rolling on my back and I got up in front of, uh, our big like stand-up mirror thing and I realized I hadn't looked at myself in the mirror yet. This, this journey, because looking yourself in the mirror is like, it's very neat.
Speaker 1:I even remember that yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm standing there in front of the mirror and I have the, the roller behind my back, I'm one hand on each side and my hands I'm stretching my hands over my back, kind of and I look at myself in the mirror and I start going side to side and I'm like holy shit, I'm a bird right now.
Speaker 1:Looking at myself.
Speaker 2:I'm like so cool, I'm like flying as a bird, and then I just I look at myself like dead in the eyes. My face is right up against the mirror and I felt like, for like the first time in my life, I'm like really looking at myself. And I'm looking at myself dead in the eyes and just as like like a energy being. It was very neat and I just found myself just loving myself and just smiling at myselfazement with just me, and it just it felt very well loving for sure, but it was just like freeing. It's like why do we have to judge ourselves for everything?
Speaker 1:When you told me this yesterday, I said it reminds me of when I did the like the one gram or whatever, and I went to the bathroom and I looked at myself in the mirror and I felt like I. It was a lion looking at me, like it was me, but it was like this, fierce, like lion, like energy, so I know what you mean about. Like looking in the mirror yourself when you have psilocybin in your body, which I can't imagine.
Speaker 1:Like I feel like you, just you see, like your true spirit, and I heard, because I remember looking at myself thinking like, okay, no, that's me, but like that's not me, and it was like the like I just heard, literally heard me say to me I've always been here yeah, because you're.
Speaker 2:You got to realize like your physical body isn't you, you can lose your hands and your arms and everything that's not you. Your body isn't you. You are like an energy, being like for real that's your soul so that that was.
Speaker 1:It was a very deep point, and you know it's interesting when you say that, like because we put so much emphasis on our external body, but it's like that's not even the part we should be focusing on at all. No, like, why are we all focused on our outsides and our this procedure and that procedure, and how skinny are you and how good do you look in those clothes? Like let's work on the insides.
Speaker 2:And how beautiful of a world would this be yeah, I think that's part of the beauty of the plant medicine, is it? It takes all the physical stuff away. Yeah wow, it's so good and you just see life for what it is. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing, anything else oh man, what else can I say?
Speaker 1:I just, those are some big messages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's some really big message in there for humanity. I think the neat thing about this is when you're connected to, like this divine intelligence and your higher self, everyone can connect to it. It's all the same thing. You just have to get there and you have to want to get there.
Speaker 2:And this is like some people can do this kind of stuff without mushrooms, because like breath work um well, if you're doing breath work, you're doing a mini dmt trip which your body, your brain, can make naturally right. Um so it can, it can take you there as well, but some people can do this just through insane meditation and stuff.
Speaker 1:What's the difference between doing therapeutic like psilocybin versus ayahuasca?
Speaker 2:um ayahuasca you only want to do in a ceremonial setting yeah, you wouldn't be doing it. No, you need a shaman, it's.
Speaker 1:It's supposed to be deeper than mushrooms but not according to the podcast you listen to.
Speaker 2:No, I just listened to a podcast today where this person had done four ayahuasca journeys and they just did a mushroom journey, and it was. The mushroom journey was way deeper than the ayahuasca ones.
Speaker 1:But everyone's interesting, everyone's different do you think you'll explore ayahuasca eventually?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, definitely, and like it just seems weird, people still have this thing around mushrooms and it just being this drug but we've been conditioned yes, it's, it's. It's like it's been put in the same category. No, it's this insane personal growth, soul development tool that, like I, was one person explained it as cheat codes thrown on there's. They're on every continent, except for, I think, antarctica. They're on every continent, so they're everywhere. Cheat codes thrown on it? There's, they're on every continent, except for, I think, antarctica.
Speaker 2:They're on every continent, so they're everywhere Cheat codes and they're cheat codes for the universe in, like this you know, this matrix, that we're in this simulation, and it's just helps you reach your higher self and like, if you, if you want to grow personally and know yourself more and know more about the universe and energy, like this is it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2:So maybe that's what this episode and episode three maybe had helped you with is just yeah, and I was very against this until I started learning more, because I had only heard about it from a recreational party standpoint. But once I learned that, oh people, people grow from this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So if any of this like interests you, um, definitely reach out. If there's questions, feel free to ask and, um, maybe it'll inspire you to do your own. I mean, we're here truly have this podcast, because I heard a friend of mine talk about her plant medicine journey on her podcast and I was like I think I want to do mushrooms and brian's, like what says the girl who's never done a drug in her life, but then realizing it's it's plant medicine, like it grows in the ground, it's free. Big pharma can't make money on it, so of course let's put it in the pile of it's drug.
Speaker 2:So I did I did have one other thing that came up, uh, for a second time on the second journey is, uh, I had this vision of chickens and just how amazing of a creature they were, and just what we do to them was just it's so horrible.
Speaker 1:Especially after watching the Netflix documentary you Are what you Eat.
Speaker 2:Well, that's just one of them.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God yeah.
Speaker 2:So it just kind of reaffirmed that I don't want to.
Speaker 1:It's like humans are so inhumane.
Speaker 2:There's nothing humane about humans, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, before we wrap this up, is there anything else you want to say? Because I feel like we wrap it up and then you're like I forgot to say that.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, I'm sure there's tons of things I forgot to say. Um, I guess one thing I noticed on this journey from the first one is there was this familiar familiarity being in this space again and there the almost like a welcoming presence, just like you're getting back here.
Speaker 1:And pieces of my last trip were kind of in this one, because I was kind of exploring the same place, but it from a different point of view so do you think from the last I mean you're, you're you've done this twice, but I feel like the one you did in June didn't really go as you had planned.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, it didn't go as planned.
Speaker 1:The one in March where we did episode three from was like. To me feels like the first real journey. Yeah, so with all the integration since March, it's now November. Do you feel like it's percolating in your life? It's showing up in other places?
Speaker 2:I would say so. I said every every time. Um you get some insight. Well, you can't see the world the same again yeah, you can't unsee what you saw in those journeys yeah I definitely walk in my day-to-day life looking at everything completely different well, even I do from that what is it?
Speaker 1:our date night episode whatever episode, that was where that was the first time I experienced doing psilocybin at all and it was a very low dose.
Speaker 2:But I still even go back to things I saw and visualizations that I had and I'm like I can't unsee that one of the biggest things I've taken away is just, you know, trying to walk through life in a place of no judgment and just seeing everyone as well. I've seen it in this trip. I've seen you as just like an energy being. There is no, there's nothing to judge, you're just a loving ball of light.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you glow, babe no judging. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Well, that was good.
Speaker 1:Thanks for sharing that, and I think that anybody listening will have gained for sharing that, and I think that anybody listening will have gained something from that and maybe even inspired themselves to be on that journey themselves yeah, so check out that, check out that experiment I proposed for yourself yeah and just see, see what you think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, where does your mind?
Speaker 1:go when you sit in that silence yep I like to think my nose to the beach, can like hear the waves crashing in the sun on me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so do that and be a bird.
Speaker 1:Be a bird, go from point to point.
Speaker 2:Yes, leave all your BS behind A bird is easier.
Speaker 1:We've got a month and a half to close out this year and you don't need to wait till the new year to set a goal or to set an intention. It's like, yes, be a bird, go from this point to that point and get something done by the end of the year.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Okay, love you guys. Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Yeah, appreciate you and everyone. Stay awesome. Okay, bye, everybody, peace.