The Love Movement
We are starting a movement, centered around love to help raise the vibration of this beautiful planet.
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Loving Yourself: Explore practical tips, personal stories, and scientific insights on self-love.
Loving Others: Hear inspiring stories of kindness, empathy, and connection. From random acts of love to deep friendships, we celebrate the beauty of human bonds
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The Love Movement
Ep 6: Date Nights: How a Night Away Turned Into an Unexpected Journey
What if stepping away from your daily routine could transform your relationship? Join us as we recount a recent experience where a simple date night led to profound insights and personal growth. We discuss the significance of maintaining personal connections amidst the chaos of everyday life, especially as parents, and how intentional time together can rejuvenate a relationship. Brittany shares her initial hesitations and enlightening journey with psilocybin mushrooms, providing a unique perspective on personal growth and intimacy.
We dive into a poignant observation of a family disconnected by technology, sparking a conversation on the importance of staying romantically connected after being together for so long. Our recent retreat to a resort on Vancouver Island serves as a focal point, showcasing how breaking away from routine can help partners reconnect. We also explore the modern challenge of being present without cell phones and how this impacts our ability to communicate and bond effectively.
This episode delves into the transformative power of psilocybin, contrasting it with substances like alcohol and marijuana. Through personal anecdotes and therapeutic realizations, we highlight the significance of openness and surrender for personal development. We share insights from Brittany's psilocybin journey, emphasizing the therapeutic potential of plant medicine in achieving a higher state of love and connection. Tune in for unique date night ideas and join our conversation on raising the vibration in relationships.
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Andrew Hubberman - How Marijuana affects the Brain
Well, hello everyone. If you could only hear what we were just talking about. Before we hit play or record, brian thinks that we need to say, hi, awesome humans, hello, amazing people, so maybe we should have a vote. How do you want to be greeted on this podcast? I am excited, though, because on this episode of the podcast, we are going to be talking about a few things, and I'm kind of nervous. I'm kind of nervous about this one. You're going to get a little vulnerable, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:We've had some great feedback though so far on the podcast, and really these are just conversations. They're very, if you can tell, unscripted.
Speaker 2:We have some notes, directions of things you want to go, but yeah, so tell everybody what we're gonna talk about all right. So we went on a date a couple weeks ago, um, so we're gonna talk about importance of um. What is, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2:date nights, date nights, yes, that's right, it's late also why we shouldn't record this at 9 30 at night yeah, we're gonna be talking about the importance of date nights and then we're going to get into a little bit of Brittany's first experience with psilocybin mushrooms. That happened on this date night, and then we're going to talk about some differences between, maybe some hesitations by people.
Speaker 2:I don't want this to be a podcast about mushrooms and stuff, but it's kind of turning it's kind of turning into a little bit and brenny's going to talk about why that is, and then we're going to talk about, um, yes, people's hesitations. We're going to talk about um, I don't know. We're just going to talk about what we talk about after that it's going to just kind of go.
Speaker 1:Who was three and a half in his entire life. So it was like weird, because we've spent 20 years together before we had him, and then it was like we didn't almost know what to do with ourselves without him there, or like being the one that we're focused on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because our Marty always has our attention and when he goes to bed at night it's like okay, now we're doing like the house things and getting ready for bed and then just crawl on the bed and, you know, talk to each other a little bit and go to sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very routine and it's always like he's always there, which is great, but I think that made me realize we really do need to get away more often, like I would try once a quarter for us. I mean, we're on Vancouver Island and we don't have like family here. I'm so jealous of people that have family that's like next door to them and can help so easily. But luckily we've gotten some really great friends here and I feel like we could probably swing once a quarter or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Anyways, one thing I noticed too on this date night, because we used to be so good at date nights, like every Friday night was our date night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was planned. I was excited for it every single week.
Speaker 1:And really we pretty much 95% of the time just watched a movie, ate your epic popcorn and chilled out at home because we loved our basement of our old house and, like we, just that's really what we did.
Speaker 2:We didn't really do anything for date night? Usually no, and you know that's all great, but there's always. There's something we said about not watching a movie and sitting there and having real conversations about stuff, and that's why I love that we're doing this podcast. We get to talk about real things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and raise the vibration because we all need to do that. But I felt like on this, like third night that we were away from him. It was hard for me to put my phone away and it wasn't like I was needing to talk to other people. I just was so worried that what if something happened to Marty and you know my friend needs to get ahold of me and like my phone's off.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, why don't we just give her the? Tell her, tell her what room we're in. Give her the number for the you know our friend whose house Marty was staying at. Give her the number for the hotel and it's emergency.
Speaker 1:they'll like she'll contact us and I was like oh yeah, yeah, how did we function before cell phones? So ridiculous. We were always mindful. Yeah, we were always mindful.
Speaker 2:You got to share maybe in the show notes that really funny reel it was just a reel about how, before cell phones, you were always mindful like you're on the bus watching the haunt, a station, trip off the window. You're mindful that you're just like you know whatever you're doing. You're mindful because you didn't have a cell phone.
Speaker 1:There's no distractions, you're always present, you're just there being you yeah, in that moment and now we don't know how to do anything without our cell phones, and that was just proof to me. And then also we set it up so it was like her phone call or text would come through if I had everything else shut off, because I don't have my phone set up like that you have to do not stirbs set up on your phone.
Speaker 1:Anyway, and then I was like, okay, I can relax now. And there was that quote speaking of cell phones. I saw on Instagram the other day when you're ready for a child's childhood to end, give them a phone. And that hit me so hard because I think we have a conversation of like raising a kid in this world of cell phones, how do we know when to give them a cell phone. And then I thought about that translated into marriages and relationships and like even me that night not even being able to shut off, when I knew my kid was like in a safe place and probably she wouldn't need to get a hold of us for anything urgent. And I thought to myself like if you want better communication communication in a marriage, which I think most people would want better communication because our phones take us away from being mindful, like you said that, um, it's kind of like how our phones. It's like if you have your phone with you, what did you say? It's like having the general public with you?
Speaker 2:you have the general public with you. You, you have the general public with you. You have a constant distraction. Here are dogs.
Speaker 1:Just ignore our dog in the background.
Speaker 2:You have always have a distraction. You can't be fully there and present with the person. But that's also what having cell phones teaches you. It teaches you to not be present. It teaches you to always have distractions. It's like such a. It's a you know a tool, but it's also like a curse at the same time, just the way it reprograms our brain. So it's like weird. How do you think of things to talk about when you don't have your cell phone with you and you've haven't been on date nights in a long time and you haven't sat down and had real conversations with your significant other? Like what do you talk about? Do you talk about your kid?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, it should be like date nights no cell phone and we can't talk about our kid. Yeah, like rules of the date night. Remember when we were in I don't know what trip we were on and we were going to the breakfast that morning and there was like a family of four, two kids that were maybe like under 10.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the parents were sitting there on their phones and the kids are sitting there on their tablets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Kids are sitting there at the town on their tablets, headphones on like feet, on table like Just savage, like what is happening in this world. Like there's a family that doesn't know how to be together, doesn't know how to communicate.
Speaker 1:It's like you're existing together, but you're not communicating it's very sad yeah, anyways, that was kind of like the first part of the date night. I just felt kind of like weird, almost like I didn't know how to just be a without my cell phone, b without my kid and c just like us together away.
Speaker 2:Yeah we're just not used to it after you know and I think three and a half years, when you don't go on date nights, you you just kind of coexist with your significant other. You're not there romantically like when you like. When you start a relationship, it's all about.
Speaker 2:You're talking endlessly and then, as time goes on, you start taking maybe the other person for granted and you don't have those conversations anymore and a kid comes in the mix and now all the attention's on the kid and you almost forget about each other and the love that you once had. It's like how do you bring that back? And I think when you can focus, put your focus on the other person more. You can really look at them like I'm looking at you right now, looking in your eyes, and you just fall in love with them again. Well, I think maybe that's a good thing to talk about is, if you don't know what to talk about, talk about when you were young. Talk about like when, when you guys first met talk about the feelings you had talk about.
Speaker 1:Even us doing the first podcast explaining our story Exactly. That was awesome.
Speaker 2:It's like memory lane, but all those good feelings you had about the other person come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. And I think when you don't have the date nights and you're not aware that you are like that out of touch or out of sync or disconnected, right Like because we had that experience, we realized, oh my God, like what the heck? And it's weird because we have such a solid foundation in our relationship, like I mean 10 years dating, 10 years married before bringing a kid in. Like we know people that have kids before they're married. So, like, how does that factor into? Like there's just so much you guys. And what happens when you have multiple kids? Oh my gosh, I know, because we have so many friends that have so many kids too. I just think, at the end of the day, date nights are important and when you have them, be present, put your phone away and don't talk about your kids. You talk about them enough. So I guess at that we went to like the most beautiful resort. If you guys are on Vancouver Island, I highly recommend Villa Irie. Irie, I don't know how to say it, villa Irie.
Speaker 1:E-Y-R-I-E and Alpina is the restaurant. Yeah, probably the best food we've ever ate. We were basically licking our plates.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we definitely were licking our plates. So good, and so after supper so, Brittany, I had brought some mushrooms with us. I had two grams of mushrooms, one for her, one for me, because she had expressed that she wanted to try them at one point and she wants to do it as like a therapeutic journey at some point. But I feel like you should do it. Do a small dose first, Like I said in episode four, where you kind of build a relationship with it, check your tolerances, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:So one gram is kind of where you want to start and just see how you feel. So we had supper came back and she knew I had them, but I wasn't like I was letting her decide. She's like I want to take them. You're like what? Yeah, so why don't you tell them why you felt you wanted to take?
Speaker 1:them. Well, I think I felt like I've been sort of jealous of you, in a way, of the experiences that you've had being on them. Like I like working with energy healers and people that kind of tell me things. But I feel like you go and do these journeys and it's like you're having these revelations and stuff from just going inward with yourself and I was like I want that but I'm scared of it because I'm such a control freak and I also know that I've never done any form of psilocybin before and so I don't know how my body would react. I've never done.
Speaker 1:You've done, a couple micro doses You've done a couple micro doses, micro doses, but like I feel like it doesn't count, no, anyways. And so I just thought, if there's any night to give this a try it would be a night that I'm not responsible for my son, and these nights are very far and few between and I just thought like I'll just give it a try. And so, on a full stomach, we had a chocolate protein shake with the mushrooms in there, and I would say I started noticing about half an hour later and I just felt like I just wanted to lay down, like I didn't really know what I was supposed to be doing or feeling, but I just remember laying on that bed and feeling like I was becoming one with the bed, like I was so comfortable.
Speaker 2:You decided you wanted to. We just wanted to lay down.
Speaker 1:but at first you felt like you're floating across the room Right when we got up from the chairs we're sitting outside watching the sunset and I was like I think I want to lay down. And when I stood up to go walk to the bed, I felt like my legs were off the ground, like my arms felt heavy and kind of weird. But then my legs felt like they were. I felt like I floated to the bed. It was so weird, yeah. But then I fell into the bed and was like I don't want to move, this is so comfortable and made myself take my contacts out. My arms felt so weird. I was like I can't even wash my face.
Speaker 2:I don't even care and guys, this still. We're still talking about date nights here too. Yeah, this isn't just a separate event. Brittany is going to it's all connected when we talk about the importance of date nights and bernie's gonna tell you why doing what we did with the mushrooms was gonna come full circle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's gonna come full circle. Stick with us, hang tight people, yeah. So anyways, I just like took my contacts out, laid in bed and we were listening to. Well, if you guys know brian has the mushroom playlist, let's go on a mushroom trip. That was called playlist on spotify. If you guys know, brian has the mushroom playlist.
Speaker 2:Let's go on a mushroom trip, is that what?
Speaker 1:it's called yeah Playlist on Spotify. If you don't have it, you need to get it, even if it's just for working in your office. I have it playing all the time pretty much in our house. It's such a good.
Speaker 1:It's just such good and driving around with it it's so good. But it obviously sounded different when the. It was like my brain just became so clear and I just was. I'm still finding this hard to put into words. One of the first feelings that I remember having was I feel like my nervous system is finally having a break, like I'm finally offline. Yeah, and by that I mean with my son and my control issues. I feel like I've either been with him 24 seven or, if he's sleeping, I have his monitor right beside my ear Like he's always. I'm never like fully.
Speaker 2:And even when you're gone, you're always thinking and worried about him and like everything Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like it's just, I have to learn and I don't know where that all comes from. I guess this is part of what I'm figuring out, but I just I remember just thinking like my nervous system is getting a break. My body had never felt so relaxed. And I also realized cause I have always like an underlying level of pain in my body, just cause I have scoliosis. My back is always sore a little bit, even if it's not something I really noticed. But I remember thinking like there's zero pain in my body, like zero pain in my body.
Speaker 2:It was exactly the same with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, obviously you have done more psilocybin than me, so I it was affecting me a lot more than you, right? But one thing I don't know what order this kind of went in, but one thing I had this huge epiphany and I was like you know that book? I ask everybody this and nobody knows the book. So maybe listen, if you're listening to this, you don't know the book either, but we all need to read it. It's called a return to love by marianne williamson. And I just thought to when you're born as a baby or you think of like whether it's your kid or someone else's baby that you're holding. They're just pure love. They're just like love and light. And I feel like the older we become and the more you know. I don't know what the word is. What's the word I'm looking for? What's the word I'm looking for? Oh, you get full of like sin, as you know.
Speaker 2:You get corrupted, you get you're just exposed to life, yeah, exposed to everything dark in the world you're, and just conditioning, just like regular life stuff.
Speaker 1:Like just you know, like you, just you just get further away from like that original, kind of like love that you were when you were born and I feel like you kind of return to that love right before you die.
Speaker 1:Like I think about being with my grandma in 2018, before she passed, and I felt almost like that same sense, almost as a newborn Like that sounds so weird to say, but like it's just that, that return to love, feeling like there's just pure love and anybody that's had a near death experience and they explain it.
Speaker 1:It's like pure love. There's no judgment, there's no this, there's no that, and I think we've talked about this on the podcast and I just remember thinking the book is called Return to Love and I have no idea if this is right, but in my brain it was very clear because when you have psilocybin in your body, it helps you like return to that love place, whereas if you just keep on living life and numbing yourself with alcohol and other drugs, that, just like you know, we're trying to do everything in our life to like get away from the bad feelings that we have, the negative feelings, the anxiety, the depression, all the things that we face because of life and it's just getting us further away from love. And the older that we are, the further away from love we are even more so if we're not focused on returning to it.
Speaker 2:And love can be like source, like where you come from and where you go to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, it's like a warm, hugging embrace and everything just feels good, yeah, I mean, I always hear people explain this but I never have experienced. It's like a thing you've got to experience yourself.
Speaker 2:But it's not as it's. Some people can say well that's, that's just escapism, you're trying to escape the realities of the world.
Speaker 1:That's everything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or are you just trying to up your vibe so you can function better in the world?
Speaker 1:Well, I had an energy session with my friend, julie, who we will have on the podcast, and she said, after I did that psilocybin journey with that one gram she's like I can tell like you energetically have been like leveled up. She could tell in my just energy, which I thought was pretty cool. But I just remember thinking like this is why everybody needs to have like do psilocybin, because it brings you closer to love where it's like everything else takes you further away from it. And then you end up you know later in life and you're feeling like life is purposeless and I mean look at rates of suicide and all just kinds of things alcoholism.
Speaker 2:We have. We had a friend who was telling us about her parents and how they sit there on their cell phones like for five hours in the night and they'll play games and they don't talk to each other and they really need a date night for sure. But I remember thinking about that while we were. But I remember thinking about that while we were laying in bed that night and I was like crying for them and how hurting they must be in their relationship.
Speaker 1:It's sad to think about, but this is so many people and I think so many people don't know that there is something like this that could help them, which is why I think I get so annoyed that the stigma around mushrooms is like a drug that is in that category. Like this is a. This is a pretty low dose.
Speaker 2:It's plant medicine you could get it. I mean, we live on vancouver island. It's like this stuff's gonna be popping out of the dirt here right away. Yeah, on its own but I think too.
Speaker 1:I mean, and why are um pharmaceutical companies trying to make synthetic psilocybin and then profit off of it? You know it's like, oh darn, there's something that actually grows out of the ground that can help you therapeutically. I mean, you can get this. I have a friend who did this in a therapist's office. You know you can go to Costa Rica or Bali or whatever and do these journeys with plant medicine.
Speaker 1:And I think, like everybody needs to do that, whether you're doing it on your own, because because you've researched it and you need to feel safe. How to do that on your own or with, like, someone who's like in the house with you, like how we have been doing it, or if you go to Costa Rica or Bali and do it, I just think you've got to figure out how to do it, because it returns you closer to love, which is where we all need to be in a higher vibration state of love. Otherwise we're operating out of fear. Why do I have such a like? I'm so scared of letting go of control, like that's just. That's all rooted in fear, and fear is like a hundred frequency, hundred hertz frequency versus love. If you look at the map of consciousness is 500.
Speaker 2:It's an absolutely different level of vibration and the higher the frequency we get, the more we operate in. Like it's like energy, like our energy field gets bigger. When you're operating on a low frequency, you feel more dense, Everything feels heavy. It's just like life sucking.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's why I felt like, when the psilocybin wore off was about four or five hours later, my body just felt heavy again. You know, like it's like you're kind of coming back to more of the frequency that we're in just on earth, but I just I remember my body feeling like heavier.
Speaker 2:It's like an energy upgrade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it definitely felt like that Like, and I can't stop thinking about the things I was thinking about. Felt like that like and I can't stop thinking about the things I was thinking about, and I've heard people say you just, you just think about things differently.
Speaker 2:And once you think about things differently, you can't unthink that no, and we've said this before you once you see something, you can't see it, but you're the way you approach. Like certain things, it's. You can't do that in a, in a normal state no because you're. It's connecting parts of your brain together that don't normally connect, and you just have these enlightened thoughts. It's like your higher self is just coming out.
Speaker 1:You have access to it, so it's like more of your brain is working. It literally is Well, and I guess that's why there's people that are using this in therapist's office, and you know that it helps with things like anxiety, depression, alzheimer's. What else have you?
Speaker 2:researched. It is a tool. It's a tool that helps people. So why is this classified as a?
Speaker 1:drug. It literally makes me crazy. Because, when I hear anybody complain, I just think like they need psilocybin, they need this to help them. Go inward and deal with them Like go inward, not look for the answer outside of you or numb it, but with other substances, and get further from love. I don't know if that is making any sense, you guys, but this is just like was part of my huge epiphany. Were you going to say something?
Speaker 2:Well, just, about this whole thing. So I'm sitting there, I, you know, I had, I had the mushrooms too, but and I was experiencing some neat stuff and a lot of feelings and we had some amazing conversations.
Speaker 3:I feel like it was, oh my god, it was so great.
Speaker 2:Some of the best conversations we've had in a in a long time. It was amazing I just felt so connected to you and it was just yeah, relationship wise, I think everyone needs to do this, but Brittany was going through a lot of emotions. She was crying, she was laughing and I was just kind of keeping reserved, like my, my thoughts. For most part I was keeping reserved and I was just there trying to support you and help you through the things that you were feeling.
Speaker 1:And I felt that I felt very supportive, I felt very safe, I felt very comforted, like I felt like that was definitely the place to experience this for the first time. I would never and I have never well, I've never done any drugs before, but I've never. I wouldn't do this in like a setting and then like go out. I know a lot of people do. But I just love the therapeutic benefit of using this because I cannot believe. I don't think I was thinking I was going to go on any type of journey. No.
Speaker 1:But I I did, like I really did, and it was like my eyes just wanted to have like water coming out of them. Whether I was, like Brian said, laughing so hard that I was physically crying, basically like I had to go wash my makeup off because I had mascara down to my chin, I'm positive. And then as soon as I was like done laughing, then I was bawling, but it was like I it felt good to cry, I needed to get it out.
Speaker 2:it was like it's an energy release.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was something in my body that needed to go and it felt really good, like to get the tears out. It seems so weird. And I remember one point I went to the bathroom and I looked at myself in the mirror and I remember, just like seeing my reflection like it was me, but it like also wasn't me, and I got these vibes of like, kind of like a lion, like something about me reminded me of a lion. I don't know if it's because I'm a Leo, I don't know why I had that vision Power and I just remember saying in my head that's not me. When I look at myself, that's not really what I see. And it was like this voice said I've always been here, you just don't always see me, don't always see me. And it was this weird like um, almost reminder of this, like inner power that I have that I just forget about, or something I don't know. It's kind of a profound little moment.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you understand anything about energy, you know, maybe it was your, your higher self, talking to you as an energy being. We don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's so cool to think of I also remember thinking, just like when I think about life in general, and I didn't even know if I wanted to share this because I feel like this is where I'm going to sound like a crazy person, whatever.
Speaker 2:I already do. You're not wrong, though, when you tell.
Speaker 1:Okay, I feel like the way I look at life is just like it's one big stupid game that we're forced to be in. We're just like playing this game of life and like the currency is, you know it's money like you, like you don't want to make everything about money, but it's like everything everything is about money. You can't live somewhere. We're going holiday or do this or do that. Yeah, money's made up. It's not even real it's energy.
Speaker 1:It's a completely fake thing and it's like we're literally I look at us like from uh, if you can zoom way, way, way, way, way, way out, looking at people on earth, just like playing this dumb game, like we've invented time, we've invented money, we've invented rules, we've invented all of this dumb stuff that we operate in. And then you had sent me that reel. That was a picture of the galaxy and there's a little speck in this galaxy and it was point. The arrow was pointing at it and it said and here you are, living in fear and paying taxes. Yeah, and I could not get that out of my head. But when we did, like that journey together, I was like this game, this life is so dumb. Like this is not that life is dumb, but like it just seems like a game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where it's like forces everyone to be stressed about everything all the time.
Speaker 1:It takes us away from love.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So when you're on mushrooms and it becomes clear, it's like you're returning to love again. Everything in this game is a distraction that keeps literally keeps our vibration down. I mean distracts you from what's important which is connecting connecting you across the table from you putting your phone down, talking with your kids being with the earth, experiencing joy, love.
Speaker 1:I know it's. If we are here to help raise the vibration of the planet, these are very small ways that we can do that. Yeah, like I don't know, and so that was weird. And also a weird thing, kind of like an aftershock of this was I've always had a huge fear of death and dying, and I no longer fear death because I just feel like this sounds really bad. But I feel like, well good, I'm out of this stupid game. Not that I want to be like I still want to live till 107, but I just feel like now that I know this is kind of this weird game, this life, like I don't want to.
Speaker 2:It's a different perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's maybe the only way to say it. It's a different perspective and I also had this really deep and talk about us feeling really connected. I felt like it was like a soul connection, like it was like I want one point. I started crying and you were like what's like? Are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, I just I feel like I, I had our souls.
Speaker 1:If you believe in past lives, which obviously we do, um, we've been together in many other past lives. We've been told this by many people. So when that happens and souls reincarnate together, it's like usually in different capacities, like we can be mother, daughter, brother, sister, whatever capacity we don't know. And I feel like my soul knows, but I don't know, like my mind doesn't know in this life, and I feel like when we were laying there, I just it was like your soul was like being entwined and wrapped up with my soul and I just felt like it felt familiar and I feel like then I got sad for myself because I didn't have that in my life until I was 15 when I met you and it's like maybe in other lives I had you from when I was born, that soul connection and maybe that's also why our connection was so indescribably strong when we met when I was 15, you were 17 because it was like our souls knew, like remember, when we had astrology done by Gary and he said you guys are like magnets to each other.
Speaker 1:He's like it would have been hard for you guys to not find each other in this lifetime. And I feel like I was feeling that and I just was like almost. I was almost feeling sad for my younger self that I didn't have you in my life. It was I don't know, it was a weird thing sad for my younger self that I didn't have you in my life.
Speaker 2:It was I don't know, it was a weird thing. Yeah, that was a really neat, really neat thing and like this isn't even like a huge dose either. This was, it was so weird. I'm kind of scared.
Speaker 1:I'm going to take more, but now I'm excited to do it, cause now I'm like, if that was a glimpse into it, then give me more. Like I want to go deeper and further and like see, set more expectations. I had zero expectations. I just thought this would be my body feeling like what psilocybin was like in my body.
Speaker 2:There was a lot of realizations you had about other things in your life too.
Speaker 1:And I was funny.
Speaker 2:And you were a freaking comedian.
Speaker 1:It was great At one point I was like I'm pretty sure I could write the next comedy act and be like the next Kevin Hart. Like what am I doing? I'm in the wrong profession. I'm actually a comedian.
Speaker 2:It was hilarious, oh, but actually a comedian. It was hilarious, oh, but yeah, it was neat that when our souls, when we, you know, you felt our souls together like there wasn't it wasn't a sexual thing at all, not at all. It was just like a, a loving connection intense connection.
Speaker 1:It just felt and it felt so good that it was just like emotional for me. Yeah, and I also realized that when I was young I kind of early on put this like mask of masculinity on. That's another story for another podcast like my upbringing, but my mom wasn't really present in my life and then when she was two, when I was two, she was then out of my life and I feel like my soul I've been told this that one time I was well, I'll just tell the story I was in my crib and I used to get left alone in the crib, my dad was working, my mom would leave and go to the bar, and so I mean, obviously I don't remember that happening, but my soul does, my muscle memory does, my like that trauma is in my body. But I had a Reiki session, a very powerful one, a year ago it was last August and she said that she went right to my crib when I was little, I was like less than one and I had called in some other like earth, like angel, for guidance and help, which is so crazy. And she said you decided right then and there that you were going to live a different life.
Speaker 1:And I feel like I also, at that point point, without knowing it, put on this mask of masculinity where I had to, at some level, take care of myself, and I always had this responsibility that no one put on me. I literally put it on myself, and during this experience, I felt like I just want to take it off. I want to be held, I want to be supported. I don't want this anymore, and maybe that's where all this control has come. I mean, you can tell me, even talking this through, like I'm still figuring this out, yeah, but like what crazy insights.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there were so many crazy insights and those are the ones that I can really think of.
Speaker 1:But that kind of brought me to we were joking how I was like we could literally help people with like that have marriage troubles Just like give them a gram of mushrooms, a chocolate protein shake and go lay on that bed and play this. You know music yeah and just be just surrender and thank me later and it was free, like we do, lifetimes and decades and thousands of dollars of like talk therapy and like where does that get people?
Speaker 2:well, I mean, it helps yeah, like it's insane therapy when you do it on your own and it's insane therapy when you you do it as a couple and you go through these things and talk to each other and, yeah, it was a amazing night.
Speaker 1:I definitely feel more connected to you again than I did before I remember you said, said to me you're like I feel like I love you even more than I already did, and it was just like it was. It was such a great night, honestly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, walls come down.
Speaker 1:I feel like we've never talked that much.
Speaker 2:No, it was, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:So anyways, I highly recommend.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, there's nothing to talk about. Well, when you have mushrooms in your system, your brain opens up insights. You're getting all these insights. Well, there's all your content to talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically it was just crazy, and so obviously then we've told some friends about this and I find the hesitations are a little bit like, because I'm just like I want all my friends to do this, I want you to experience this because it is like therapy. It is literally like therapy, and I will tell you that because I was so tired the next day, not from lack of sleep, just like literally doing the work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your brain was just doing so much work. You're mentally exhausted.
Speaker 1:I was mentally exhausted.
Speaker 2:You don't feel like there's no hangover. No none, it's not like that at all.
Speaker 1:I was just tired from like it was like I had a big personal development course because I've been equally tired from doing those types of things in the past. But I find some people are hesitant to do to use psilocybin therapeutically, like we are, because either they've done it in a party setting and had some bad trips, as you've heard people say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you're exposing yourself to all the energy You're it's. That's just a bad idea.
Speaker 1:Again, go back to episode, whatever it is where you explain how to do episode four. And then some people on the flip side are like me, where they've never done a drug and they consider this a drug and they will never do it because they don't do drugs. That was a huge thing for me to overcome. When I look at it as plant medicine and as a way to like almost give myself this therapy, then it makes sense to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like so we're not taking this and walking around in the world. Yeah, no, no, you, you do it in a safe place and it's a whole other thing because you're when you're on psilocybin, you feel like vulnerable, right, so it'd be scary when everything's being bombarded at you.
Speaker 1:Part of why, also, you wanted to do your journey on your own and did all that research that you've taught on this podcast already in episode four, because even when you do it in a setting like, say, if you went to Costa Rica or you went to Bali or something, there's still other energies of people around you.
Speaker 2:And some people. That's fine, Like it's great for some people. For me, I know I am insanely sensitive to other people's energies. Well, you're a reflector and just even in the street I am, I can sense it's weird.
Speaker 1:Human design. We'll get to that very soon with our friend Peg, because this makes sense when you know Brian, but what do you say to that Brian? When people are like those are their hesitations or fears?
Speaker 2:I mean, like in normal life, we want to control everything. We want to control our spouse, we want to control our kids, we want to control the traffic in front of us. We want to control everything all the time. And people are. You know, you're always bitching about all no-transcript, you're getting distracted and you're going to do this and you're going to do that Like it's so. You don't. It's just controls an illusion, right? So when we can feel like, put it this way, the most amazing experiences you've ever had in your life were you open or were you closed? So think of when you fall in love, you're open. When you decide to have a kid, you're open. Everything that's good, that's ever happened to you. An experience when you know, go to nature, go on a trip, you're open to the experience. That's so true. It feels light, right. When you're closed off and you're like, oh, I, I can't, I don't want to do that. I want to give a control. Like everything that feels heavy, like strict, open feels light close close, feels heavy because it's restriction.
Speaker 2:It's like resistance. It's's like when you look at, you know, think of life as like, or even a relationship as a like a stream, and it's just flowing. The energy is flowing and you put a rock in the water. Now you got resistance. That's like you being closed. So when you understand what a mushroom trip is, it's like accessing your subconscious, your higher self. Right. Why would you not want like you? You let everything else distract you and take your vibe down with everything in the world and the mushrooms are going to up-level you. They're going to. But the thing is when people get scared. Some people get scared because they might see things they don't want to see, or they might have a realization that I've been married to the wrong person. I've been. You know it can be scary. I've been doing, I've been in the wrong career for years, because your subconscious truly knows the answers of what you really want and it'll will bring it out.
Speaker 2:So that's another hesitation that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Do this, but because we avoid things that we don't want to yeah.
Speaker 2:But your subconscious knows deep down. You know what you really want, your you truly want, your soul truly wants, and the mushrooms will will help bring that out and that can be scary. But to experience this you have to give up control, you have to be open and you have to surrender.
Speaker 1:That can be hard for people, especially people that have been closed off all their life on everything so to people that think, okay, so we call this plant medicine, some people would say, well, weed is a plant. So like, what's the difference? Because, like, I'll never do weed.
Speaker 2:No, there's major differences in the two. So weed well, first of all, marijuana, marijuana cannabis. I'm not an expert on this. I'm going to explain this the best I can, but I've been around marijuana my whole life, since I was a little kid. I'll tell you the story here in a minute, but so it can enter your body in about 30 seconds and stays in your tissue for about three months. So, siphon, take it, you pee it out, it's gone, it's done right.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:Marijuana stores in your fat cells. So smoking changes your DNA. There's five areas in your DNA I can't remember the exact, I forgot to look it up but there's five things in your DNA. I can't remember the exact, I forgot to look look it up but there's five things in your DNA that, um, smoking changes. Marijuana changes four of those five. So it's almost as bad with your DNA manipulation. It's called a methylation. This has to do with, like, aging and a bunch of different DNA triggers. That, uh, that happens when you, when you smoke. Um, so there's that. And then you got you're inhaling smoke in your lungs. That on what planet is that a good thing? Right, right, well, there's edibles. You can do edibles. Obviously you're not inhaling smoke, but when you're inhaling anything in your lungs, like I'm very athletic, I don't want anything in my lungs. Yeah, I want to use them to inhale oxygen, to help me breathe, to live a long life with a long life.
Speaker 1:I don't want to clog up my lungs, yeah, I want to use them to inhale oxygen, to help me breathe, to live a long life, long life I don't want to clog up my lungs with anything, uh, so there's that.
Speaker 2:Especially if you're vaping, vaping is just is it even worse?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, vaping is even worse but people do it because they think it's better yeah, it's more convenient, right, um?
Speaker 2:so I I did a bit of research and watched some more andrew huberman stuff. Uh, he's got some great stuff on there about, uh, how marijuana affects your brain. Now this one I've seen firsthand. Um, it increases paranoia in some people, um, and some people not, like like mildly, like intensely, and I've seen this because my dad he became insanely paranoid and he was like he smoked weed.
Speaker 2:You know, before I was, I was born, he was, yeah, it wasn't cool. That's why I've been around it so long, because my dad was basically like drug dealer at one point in my life and he got insanely paranoid, anxiety, like it was not cool, like not cool at all. He'd be like yelling at people at Walmart, like someone drive by the house or walk by the house, and he'd be like screaming at them, like he was so paranoid. But the thing is it escalates. So when you smoke the weed your paranoia comes down, but when you get off it it levels up and then you have to keep smoking more for it to come down more and it just keeps getting higher and higher and higher and your paranoia just gets off the charts. And I've seen that. I remember watching a episode of um nature of things with david suzuki remember him back in the day. And there's a gene that some people have that when you smoke marijuana it triggers this gene and paranoia starts interesting and you don't know if it's going to be you or not.
Speaker 2:So you're taking a chance, right? So that's why I don't smoke it. Well, I don't like the feeling of it, but I don't smoke it because my dad had it. What if I become paranoid? Yeah right, um. So it has insane effects on short-term memory and even long-term memory. So think about like it lowers your, your neuron function. So think about stoners, potheads, burnouts, like we got these people that you can tell they've been smoking weed their whole life. You're like oh yeah, bro, they're just, they're burnt out, they don't think normally anymore because they smoke so much weed.
Speaker 2:Like that's brain damage yeah, basically and you don't function well when you have that kind of you know thing going on in your head. Yeah, you have memory damage. You're not going to think normally, um, when you smoke and you do mushrooms not the same time but there's, there's some similarities and and um how your body can respond to it. But the thing with weed is it's something that you do like all the time. Someone will smoke weed every single day and they'll get this feeling right and it people like. People call it getting high, but it's really bringing down your vibe because you're at the lower brain function. Yeah, you're not thinking as much, you're zoning out. It's really bringing down your vibe because you're at the lower brain function. You're not thinking as much, you're zoning out. It's-.
Speaker 1:You're numbing.
Speaker 2:It's numbing.
Speaker 1:You're getting further away from love.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're getting further away from love, and then you'll get the munchies after. Yeah, but when you do mushrooms, it's not something you do every day. You do it you know once a month, once every six months. You know once a month, once every six months. But when you take mushrooms, your brain is talking to itself better. You know, you have the neuroplasticity. You're making new pathways. It's not changing your personality, it's upregulating your, your thought process right.
Speaker 2:It's totally different things, but it doesn't. It doesn't change you as a person, but you can. You can abuse mushrooms too, and you and you can have some. You know, if you did it over and over and over and over and over and over, back to back to back, you you can end up with psychological things. And if you take mushrooms and you had previous like psycho things happening or a psycho psychological diagnosis, it can bring that out more. So don't take them if if you have some kind of you know mental disorder already.
Speaker 1:But all right, I feel like I'm going on and on and on here, but the weed mushrooms are two totally different things yeah, that's good, because I just feel like when someone had asked me, um well, what's the difference if, like, mushrooms are a plant and that's plant medicine? Like, isn't weed a plant and it's like right?
Speaker 2:but weed is like bioengineered basically. You got uh, people genetically modifying it. It's grown in fake rooms with artificial light, with insane amounts of fertilizer. It's not weed that's grown in the garden in jamaica, right? Two totally different things, right?
Speaker 2:so it's not plant medicine anymore, it's, it's manufactured as a drug probably what the pharmaceutical industry is trying to do psilocybin yeah, like weed has I think like 90 thc now, where back in the day it had like 10 when it was just grown in a field in the sun. And mushrooms are grown just in dirt and they grow from decomposing Just from the dirt. There's no chemicals. You can't hack that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that was a big topic. I didn't know we had this much to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So there you go, date nights.
Speaker 2:I feel, yeah, you just take some mushrooms, go lay in a room and you'll have the best date night of your life. We kept the PG version for you.
Speaker 1:You had to say that You're going to cut that out. No.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to cut that out.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I hope that that was helpful for some of you guys, and now I'm feeling more excited to do my actual journey and we'll see what happens with that because you'll be the first that I'll tell what happened in that experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'd love to hear from you guys and just how you know some recent date nights you've been on. What are some things that you've done together that have helped you guys connect with your significant other?
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's keep raising the vibration, friends, right on, Stay awesome guys.