The Love Movement
We are starting a movement, centered around love to help raise the vibration of this beautiful planet.
You can expect to hear casual conversations and interviews with some amazing people as we chat about many topics all centered around three main pillars:
Loving Yourself: Explore practical tips, personal stories, and scientific insights on self-love.
Loving Others: Hear inspiring stories of kindness, empathy, and connection. From random acts of love to deep friendships, we celebrate the beauty of human bonds
Loving the Planet: Dive into discussions about environmental consciousness, sustainable living, and our responsibility to care for our beautiful home. Discover how self love extends to nurturing the Earth and creating a more compassionate world.
Tune in to “The Love Movement” and be part of a global shift toward more love, understanding, and positive change.
The Love Movement
Ep 2: What is Love? Unity and Connection Through Love
What if the essence of love isn't just about romance or family, but something that resonates on a universal frequency? Picture this: the profound impact of a single musical note, 528 hertz, known as the "Love Frequency," seeping into your soul and altering your state of being. We share heartfelt stories, such as the emotional farewell to our cherished dog and the beauty we find in nature, to illustrate how love manifests in diverse moments and profoundly influences our well-being.
Imagine experiencing an overwhelming sense of pure love during a near-death experience or while on a psychedelic journey. These mind-altering moments often reveal a love so profound, it's as if you've touched another dimension. We discuss personal stories that draw parallels between near-death encounters and psychedelic trips.
Let's talk about embracing love and unity in our everyday lives. Inspired by Gandhi's wisdom, we offer actionable steps to bring more love into the world, from treating our bodies with respect to leaving places better than we found them. Join us on this journey to discover how you can infuse your life with more love and connection.
you're listening to the love movement with your hosts britney and brian johnston.
Speaker 2:We're starting a movement centered around love to help raise the vibration of this beautiful planet.
Speaker 1:If that's your vibe, hang out with us as we chat about many topics all centered around three main pillars Loving yourself, loving each other and loving the planet. So if you're ready, let's jump in. So, on today's episode of the Love Movement, we are going to talk about what is love.
Speaker 2:What is love?
Speaker 1:This is something we've been talking about for a long time. What is love? This is something we've been talking about for a long time. Like months, I feel like we've been talking about this topic, trying to figure out what to share on this podcast, because it's like a really hard to describe topic and there's no actual answer.
Speaker 2:It's such a hard topic to talk about and we're gonna. We're gonna talk about some stuff, we got some ideas, but I feel like you could go to like insane, like academia style study just trying to figure out what love is.
Speaker 1:I'm sitting here beside a stack of four books from my bookshelf that are all about love and I felt like I needed to read them all before we talked here. But really I just felt like we went for a walk the one day with the dogs and we were talking about like what is love, what isn't love, and we should have just recorded that conversation. Well, we heard most of it, but not not in a studio, yeah, anyway, not that this is a studio, it's a good thing we're not on video. But what would you say, like short answer, if I was to say to you what is love? What do you say?
Speaker 2:it's. It's so broad, like I did some pretty good reflection on it one day and I've got like a list of things. But I think what? Like, when most people just think of love, they just think of, oh, like you're, you're in love with someone, it's like a feeling that you just have towards someone. You think that's just love. I think that's one kind of love, I think it goes way deeper than that, but I think that's when society thinks about love.
Speaker 2:They just think of a romantic relationship, or loving others, loving others, or something you know you love your kids but I think it goes way deeper than that, like way deeper than that. So when I was trying to describe it, I like I got a list here of things that I can go deep on every single topic, of every single one of these points, but I'm I'm just gonna talk about them, sure, and uh, and you guys can, you know, self-reflect on this on your own and you might have your own spin. Um, this is just what I came up with and bernie's gonna have her own thing too.
Speaker 2:So, uh, first of all, love is frequency. We all know that 528 hertz, that's what. That's what love is. I don't know how they figured that out. 528 520 hertz is a frequency, so we just did a little five minute meditation before this. Listen to 528 hertz is a frequency, so we just did a little five-minute meditation before this. Listen to 528 hertz music and I don't know it feels good. I like that frequency. So I think love can be something you give to someone. It can be something you receive and you can feel it from someone. But, like you know this is one of my notes here is like you know, where does where does that go when, when someone passes away? I remember when our dog passed away.
Speaker 2:Just gonna say, yeah, it reminds me of bailey yeah, when our dog passed away, it was like we had this love for this dog and all of a sudden the dog was gone. But it was just like so hard because we didn't have a place for that love to go anymore it was just like a weird weird thing right.
Speaker 1:So five months later we got blaze another dog to. Not that it was replacing bailey, but it was like you needed somewhere to put your love yeah, but where does it come from initially?
Speaker 2:yeah, like it starts as nothing. It's, there's nothing there and all of a sudden you you have love it. Just it's like it grows and it can be instant. You can have like instant love or something you just like see, something like, oh, I love it. I love how that makes me feel you know, but I think it can grow too.
Speaker 2:It grows with people a lot of the time. Um so yeah, I talked about love is, uh, you know, a feeling in relationships. Uh, it can be like an instant attraction to something or someone. I think love is having trust in someone.
Speaker 2:You can put like your whole you know safety, your whole life in someone else's hands. I think that just is like a form of love, um, an appreciation for something. Uh is love, you know, showing gratitude, like when you're in a frequency of like gratitude. I feel like that's just like one of the best feelings, when you just like just so grateful for everything around you, all that you have not looking at the things that you don't have.
Speaker 1:So true, even just tonight, sitting out on the front patio looking at the colors of the sky and the sun setting over the mountains, it's like I keep saying to you since we moved to Vancouver Island not that there's anything against the prairies, but that's just what we're used to and it's almost like when things are right in front of you, you don't see it. And moving out here, it's like when I look at the ocean and I look at the mountains and I look at the sky.
Speaker 2:It's like the cells in my body change. It's like a overwhelming feeling in my body. Yeah, it's a gratitude feeling.
Speaker 1:It's just like every day when I drive marty to daycare, preschool, I feel it just on the drive and just like wow the first time I drove to the airport from here I just had like tears in my eyes and it's not like I was sad, I was just like I cannot believe the amount of like love and gratitude to have for this place and even people that have lived here. They're like I love driving around with you because it's like I forget what's right in front of me and that's kind of how we were when we were in the prairies, right, yeah, definitely, because there's things that I miss about the prairies.
Speaker 2:I love a good thunderstorm.
Speaker 1:I miss a thunderstorm so much, so much. You know we're just like a really beautiful, vibrant sunset that you can just see endlessly. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting when you think about all those different things. And you were saying the one day we were walking, you were like everything is love, it's like the sun shining on the trees and it's like the smell of the flowers. And you walk past.
Speaker 1:I think of like Bouchard gardens when we go there, like that is a frequency. That place I even think of like oh my gosh, if you guys follow me on Instagram, you've seen the saga of our black widow spiders under our front step. And yesterday was it? We had a black widow spider in a jam jar on our counter and I said to brian, where did it go? And he said it's gone. And I was like but did you kill it? You're like it's gone with this, like cheeky, look on your face. I knew he didn't kill it. You don't have the heart to kill even a black widow spider. He went out behind her house and, like released it in the forest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:That is love.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's love. Thing deserves to live. We're all made. And this is where they live.
Speaker 1:They live here Under our front step. Like all of these, things are love you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what I talked about yeah, love is an appreciation, can be an acceptance for things and just like how things are like just seeing how something is and just like appreciating it for what it is. Yeah, like it could be a person, or it could be this tree, like we have this idea of, like a tree in our head, like, think of a tree you think of, like a perfect tree. Go look in the forest. Is there any trees like that? No, every tree is completely different. They're completely unique.
Speaker 1:Well, when we're hiking, the trees that we stop and look at and take pictures of are all the unique ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're all the weirdest looking trees.
Speaker 1:Growing in different directions Huge trees, trees with holes.
Speaker 2:You just accept them and you just love that.
Speaker 1:You know how something someone is well, do you think it comes out like when you're, whether it's sad or happy, like when you get to that point of tears?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you can just like feel it. Yeah. That's like the overflowing love you should tell the story about when you were hiking with Marty.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we were. Yeah, last week, marty and I went on a hike.
Speaker 1:So for those of you, who don't know, he's our three and a half year old son.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three and a half year old. He was in the carrier on my back and he just loves looking at everything. I show him stuff in the forest all the time.
Speaker 1:And you're bringing his attention to things always.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he thinks it's super cool and we went past a spot he's never been past before. It was a clear cut where they're doing a housing development and it's just like you're walking in this beautiful forest all of a sudden opens up and it's just bare earth and rocks that have been, you know, you know, exploded, and it's just. It's just, it's a scene. It's like a scene. It's like when, when we look at it, we know what's going on. So I was just telling him I'm like, oh, they're going to build houses here and they, they took all the trees away and they were, you know, blowing up rocks and making it, making room for houses, and he goes.
Speaker 2:That hurts my heart and he goes. That hurts your heart too, like I didn't. I just told him what it was. I didn't, I didn't put my feelings toward it on him, I just explained this is what this, this clearing, is here, and he just knew at the core of his body that that was wrong. He just had a love for the trees that used to be there, the forest that used to be there, and then he goes, he goes, the forest is broken I cannot believe.
Speaker 2:He said that and just yeah wise old little soul yeah, just his insight into it, like he hasn't been on earth long enough to have like an opinion about things, but he just innately knew that that was like that was a wrong thing. He because you know the earth is, we should be loving the earth and he's seen the injustice that was happening there.
Speaker 1:Right, it's pretty wild yeah, I love that story. I feel like that's very insightful for three definitely oh my gosh. Um. One thing I always notice when people talk about love and it's usually when it comes with death for whatever reason, like anybody that's had a near-death experience and they're talking about it, it's always the same example or like description you feel ultimate love of just this overwhelming, unexplainable, complete, encompassing, pure love yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna touch on, uh, something here the mushroom experience okay, let's go back to that okay and I don't know what kind of chemical thing goes on in the brain when you're like near death or when you're in a mushroom experience.
Speaker 2:but a mushroom experience is one of the most mind altering things because it's that kind of love and people, people that have had near death experience, have actually said that when they've done, you know, mushroom trips or lsd trips and stuff, that it's like the same kind of thing, it's very similar crazy because you had that feeling.
Speaker 1:If you guys listen to the podcast on brian's mushroom trip, you had that experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's otherworldly type of of love that like you could not get in this on this plane. Like it's, it was overwhelming, it was insane. I felt like I was being crushed by love.
Speaker 1:It was so intense that's so it was amazing though it's like absolutely amazing like that makes me want to do a mushroom trip yeah I'm still over here, scared, haven't done we'll get you there.
Speaker 1:One day we'll have my own episode um, which, yeah, also brings me to like the point of I don't know if you want to go here yet, but you know, and again this can go down a different path of like religion and what you believe or whatever, and I don't really necessarily want this podcast to go there. But this is just about our conversations and what we think and believe. But it's like you know, hell, does hell exist? And I just feel like, well, I don't think it does. I feel like hell is like being on earth a little bit.
Speaker 1:That's like the lessons we have here. It's hard, it's dark, it's heavy, like there's a lot going on here and I even think of people like you know. We've had people in our life, and even some recent like suicide, and the only thing that brings me any sort of like peace is knowing that the minute that they leave this earth they're experiencing that all-encompassing love that they clearly did not have because it brought them to a place of suicide yeah, I don't think there's a hell, I think it's a man-made thing.
Speaker 2:yeah, I think when when I mean this is my belief, but I think when you die, you return to source and I think this whole universe is love.
Speaker 1:You were talking about we went for a walk, remember? You were talking about like we are just floating in this ball of dirt. Yeah, floating ball of dirt in space. How did you say that I?
Speaker 2:mean, okay, well, think about when you zoom out, yeah, okay, Well, just think about the planet right now. There's all the stuff going on on the planet there's wars, there's, you know, hate, there's all this stuff. What we need is more love. Yeah, love is gonna, you know hence the podcast hence the podcast. So when you zoom out and look at Earth floating there a ball of dirt in the middle of freaking nowhere and you look at like okay, we're having all these problems, when you zoom out you're like what's the problem?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why are we creating all these problems for ourself? And then you zoom out further and like Earth is smaller than a grain of sand on the biggest beach you could possibly think of, in like the expanse of, like the whole universe.
Speaker 1:And we think it's like everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we think our problems are everything when it's insignificant.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Absolutely insignificant. So I think love is creation. The fact that we can even be sitting here having this conversation is when, if you really really think about it, is absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 1:Totally and like talking about like what is love also, Like what is the opposite of love, Kind of what you just described. Well like all the injustices, all the bullshit going on in this planet separation, separation yeah, seeing things as separate from you.
Speaker 2:Everyone's separate, everything is separate. I think that's the opposite of love, like I what einstein said, the the greatest illusion is the illusion of separation, because everything is connected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is why Marty felt that way about something happening to the earth, why our feet should be in the ground and we should be grounded and connected, but no, we have shoes and rubber in between us.
Speaker 2:Well, humanity in itself, like we've. We've become disconnected from 100, from the planet, from from love.
Speaker 1:We were so disconnected from from everything that we're so focused on, like literally the wrong things, like some people get so into down the rabbit holes of politics and down the rabbit holes of religion and that's all separation separation, separation, separation. Like I can't I just don't have a capacity for that. Like, can we focus on what we're more similar of than what we're so different in?
Speaker 2:well, I think, when you have a really neat mushroom experience, it's always going back, it is because it's so insightful, though, because, like, I see things different now, I see that everything is connected, everything. We're literally all one. We're all made of the exact same stuff. That black widow spider is made of the same cosmic dust as I am. We're all made of the same thing. We're all created from the same thing. Nothing has more value than anything else. We all have the same amount of value. So what affects you, affects me, I think. Like if you hear something that's going on in the other side of the world like a news story and it's like, oh man, that's, that's crazy, doesn't affect your life, but you can feel the pain of it, right, like it's affects you because at your core, you're actually connected right and then if you walked around the planet, looking at people and everything, like they're, like an extension of you, with no separation, what?
Speaker 2:how can you hate on somebody?
Speaker 1:let's talk about judgment for a second, because I feel like when we separate ourselves from love, which we do in a million different ways, we all are guilty of this. We judge and judgment is such a hard thing. I think that's like one of the biggest lessons of being a human on this earth is like learning how to not judge judge yourself, judge others and if you guys will do another podcast on human design but we're both really quite into that and, if you don't know, brian is our one percent unicorn. He's a reflector and when he is in his not self, so when he's sort of like I guess you'd say, out of alignment, your default is disappointment, mine's frustration. I'm a manifesting generator, but yours is disappointment and I always kind of bug you or people that know you really well they might say like you're a little judgy yeah but you were having an epiphany about this yesterday yesterday I was what was?
Speaker 2:I was watering some flowers, I was filling the jug to water the flowers and I was just kind of thinking about this for some weird reason and I like I know I'm really judgy my dad was really judgy but in like a really crazy way. But I don't know if it's necessarily judgment and like thinking bad of the other person I like I started to see it like as a point where I because there's no separation and if, like, we're all connected if you're doing something, I'm judging you because you're doing something to yourself, like I love you so much that I can't stand seeing you do that to yourself.
Speaker 1:You love someone more than they love themselves yeah, because one example I always would say when, when peg my friend, who will interview one day about human design, I always joke when, when she told me and taught me that your thing was disappointment, I was like this is literally him at costco. Like you will judge somebody based on what is in their shopping cart. Like you're like well, that's not healthy, like that's not going to serve you, that's full of sugar, that's full of gluten, that's full of whatever. But now you're saying that it's like this other way of looking at it, almost, because like why are we sitting here trying to harm ourselves when we're all connected?
Speaker 2:We're all one and, like we talked about earlier, it's looking at someone and accepting them the way they are, which is not judging them.
Speaker 1:It's so hard.
Speaker 2:It's very hard, but yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a different awareness.
Speaker 2:It's just a different awareness. If I can look at someone or something in a judging way, but out of love, then I guess I can be aware of it more in my own life too. I don't know. It's a hard thing to think about is about.
Speaker 1:It's like the love movement. We need more love going on in our lives and even this.
Speaker 1:What is love? We don't have the answer, we don't know. This is just perspective, a conversation, something to get your wheels turning and to think about it in a more conscious way. Um, you know, I even think of you. Know in our neighborhood, like there's so many nice, perfectly manicured lawns, and I love a good lawn. I do not like any type of yard work, I just like to enjoy a nice yard and lawn and everything and, like you, are the guy that will never spray a chemical on a thing no, and then you have this epiphany about like well, you're disrupting everything that is like the ecosystem that should be living in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a lawn is a monoculture. There's nothing there. There's nothing living there.
Speaker 1:You're not supporting and like why you want perfectly manicured lawns yeah, it looks great, but you've killed off the entire ecosystem.
Speaker 2:There's no bees, there's no bugs, there's no birds. Don't land on it, because there's none to eat. That's why the bears come to our house. Yeah, that's just clover. Yeah, it's like you think you're giving your lawn love, so it looks good, but you're actually doing the opposite, because you're killing everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and even like with Marty teaching him like I don't know, we just get taught when we're younger. It's like you see a spider, you kill it and you like literally teach him to catch it and release it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we let them outside.
Speaker 1:What did he step on the other day? And you're like why did you step on that?
Speaker 2:oh, I think it was an ant or something yeah, just it was that one spider, but just teaching him not not to do that.
Speaker 1:Or like we see slugs walking all the time on hikes and you'll pick it up and look at it and talk to it and move it over.
Speaker 2:It's like but if you have no separation from anything and you're just like, okay, well, this is just a small creature made of the same stuff that I am I have a lot of work to do when it comes to snakes, though it's yeah, so you haven't advanced that far in your life yet. What about? Your mushroom trip and it's all about snakes suffocating me, like why is this little creature not allowed to to live it? Just it's being small, it's being in its full self just expressing itself the way it is just love it for that.
Speaker 2:It looks scary. Who cares? That's it being it? Yeah, totally so. I just, I don't know. I don't try to kill things anymore, I just try to move them out of my way and you know, let them be yeah, I've probably put a dozen spiders out here at least since we got to this, this new house, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:What else do you have to say before? I know I want to end this with um ways that you can return to love. I guess you'd say but what else do you want to say on the topic of what is love?
Speaker 2:um well, love is, you know, passing on the best of you into someone else solely for their benefit so I like I can pass the best onto marty and or someone else that I don't even know. Like it's like the kids that I met on the hill back here that were, you know, screwing around. I went up there and I taught them a really good lesson about a lot of stuff, but, um, it wasn't too.
Speaker 2:It's not going to benefit me any of the stuff that I was teaching them, but it'll benefit them yeah so just passing on the best of you to someone else I like that um, I really think love is just like I guess it comes back to like appreciation and stuff, but just like looking at something and just being in total awe and wow.
Speaker 1:Paying attention to what's in front of you.
Speaker 2:Literally whatever. Okay, I love that yeah Paying attention, forgetting everything except what is right in front of you. You like read the words off my page.
Speaker 1:I didn't even read them.
Speaker 2:Wow, we're on the same frequency.
Speaker 1:It's a very loving frequency, but it's. We're in a world where you know you say this a lot. When there's, like especially right now, teenagers that'll walk past you and their head is just down in their phone, they're not even looking, they're not looking up, they don't aren't guilty of that at some time.
Speaker 2:It goes further than that too, like I was at the the bike park the other day. I was riding up and there was a, a kid he must have been like 17 ish years old and I went past and I was like, oh, hey, man, how's it going, how's your day? And he just looked at me, didn't say a word. I was like okay, have a good one.
Speaker 1:Like wow, I remember the other day too, there was somebody. Oh, we saw that kid running towards a bus and he met. The bus didn't stop for him and he was probably like 12 or something, oh, and he started crying because he missed the bus and you, we just felt so bad for him and you were like if we were in a different world. I would just stop and say hey, dude, where do you? Were like if we were in a different world. I would just stop and say hey dude where do you want to go?
Speaker 1:But we're in a world where now you're going to be the bad guy if you stop and try to help somebody, people are like oh, this guy's picking up kids.
Speaker 2:Well, I see stuff like this happen all the time. It's like someone just sitting there walking with a flat tire on their bike.
Speaker 1:I want to. Can we get back?
Speaker 2:there, yeah, or is this just how it is? I would love to get back there. How do we do that? But it's like you do that and you're going to be labeled as you know, whatever, because there's x amount of bad people out there have done something that made you know yeah. So, um, I think love is creation, just in general. We talked about the universe. I think just you know us being here having this conversation and just creation in general.
Speaker 1:Everything that's been created is a form of love I think of like, creating a human, creating like when we had marty, when anybody has any baby, when, when we were born, like it's pure love.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I seen a video today this mama bear with her two little cubs so cute and she's just loving on them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, today I saw an eight week old puppy, just love.
Speaker 2:Seeing this is a little. I was watching some bees a few weeks ago. I was sitting, I went for a bike ride, sitting on top of a mountain, and I was just watching bees with flowers, so, and I was just like this is really amazing, just watching this whole thing and just watching what was in front of me, so like seeing a bee, you know, being drawn into the beauty of a flower, and then you see the sunshine that's shining down on this flower, and then you see, okay, well, there was, you know, rain was fell on this flower and it helped it all grow, and then the soil that nourishes the flower, and it was just like everything's connected everything supporting each other, and you could take that out further and further and further and further until like the whole world and you see how connected everything is.
Speaker 2:And you know Mahatma Gandhi. He said where there is love, there is life.
Speaker 1:It's so true so you think about all the places that there's not love yeah or there's not life, there's no love, yeah, where things are thriving, there's love, but like just think of all the like horrible things that go on in the world, or like the wars, or like whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's, it's there's no life there, it's all death and it's not love, it's the opposite there's, there's a heavy topic there's.
Speaker 2:There's love there, but it's being overshadowed by, you know, the bad yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:okay, well, what are some things that we can do to return to love, as Marianne Williamson says? If you guys haven't read her book, it's called a return Love. Marianne Williamson will put all of these few books I'm sitting here beside me in the show notes, but I thought of a few. I don't know if you have any others to add. Do you want me to do mine or do you have anything else you want?
Speaker 2:to say If there's some other ones, I can always add them in the show notes. Just thinking like yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:what can we do to return to love? So, first of all, when I think about loving yourself, it's like let's treat our bodies like a temple, not a garbage can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, love is. You know you got to love yourself. If you can see if you can love someone else for who they are, why can't you love yourself?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's like, for some reason, the hardest thing.
Speaker 2:It's very hard because we're judging ourselves Exactly.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it seems so basic, but it's so hard. Second and this is something you always say is leave people and places better than you found it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of a philosophy. I can't even remember where it came from. Um, I can't either. You've been doing it for so long, but I walk around everywhere with that, like I smile to people in the grocery store, I wave at people and drive them by Like I'm always doing something.
Speaker 1:You're always picking up garbage.
Speaker 2:Always picking up garbage. And then that's the thing too, don't like. You see garbage on the ground, you go oh, you get all mad. You know why did people put this here? Pick it up. But if you're really, you know, out of love, you're not judging why the garbage was there. You just say, okay, there's garbage here, I'm gonna make it better and pick it up and pick it up um, so I love that one leave people in places better than you found them.
Speaker 1:And then third is and sometimes this is hard too, for whatever reason, but tell people that you love them and tell yourself that you love yourself, but really mean it. I was gonna say but mean it because you can always be like okay, love you, love you too, like it's so meaningless yeah but yeah, mean it yeah, like you were gone last week in vegas.
Speaker 2:You got stuck there because of the strike and I had like a longing for you because you weren't here. I wanted to hug you, I wanted just your presence and yeah, that's special.
Speaker 1:It's been almost 24 years and you still long for me, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you got home and it's just everything just feels right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what you mean. And as it should in a relationship. Mm-hmm. And that is the love movement I mean our toddler.
Speaker 2:I love him too, even when he's absolutely throwing a shit fit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I actually tell him that sometimes well, our one of our original mentors, um, you'll probably hear us talk about him, but his name's keith kokner and he always something he said this was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I started working with him when I was 24, so I didn't have my son till I was like 34, so this was 10 years prior and I remember him saying a lesson he would teach his kids is that whatever decisions they would make, he would always tell them that I always love the chooser, even if I don't love the choices yeah and I feel like that lesson alone could change the world, because so many people, when their parents are mad at them and maybe you even struggle with this listening you know, as an adult, it's like you maybe did something in your life that you're not proud of or someone was mad at you for, but you make up a story that like your parents hate you, or your parents this or that about you, but like they probably hate you, or your parents this or that about you, but like they probably love you still.
Speaker 1:They just don't love the choices you made. And I think, like that's something I want to raise marty knowing like clearly that there's going to be things he does, that we don't love those choices, but we'll always love him as the chooser yep I don't want to ever go and affect his like worth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he doesn't need to do things to try to seek love or attention from us. He's just always going to know he has it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and every choice has prices and benefits.
Speaker 2:Every moment's a choice.
Speaker 1:Every moment's a choice and every choice has prices and benefits. Thanks, keith. Those are some words to live by all these years later, like 15 years later, but I hope that helps you guys just with a little bit of um insight, conversation around. You know what is love, and we'd love to hear from you guys like shoot us a message. That's part of what this podcast is about too is to like create conversation and to just spread more love that's the goal.
Speaker 2:What do you guys can do today? Spread some more love. But yeah, I want to hear your take on it. Yeah, too thanks for tuning in yeah, hope this has been a loving episode. I hope you love listening to it as much as we loved. Oh my god love doing it, and we love you, and and we love you. You guys stay awesome.